We had a several shooters for July's Match and as the saying goes anything can happen. Snappy logged 103* Degrees with his Kestral in the sun, but it was a dry heat so it didn't seem too bad.

We had 10 stages with close to a 60 round count for the day. We added at last month's match the "Hot Bore" shot at the end of the match and that seems to be a great last stage. I thought the match went smoothly and the shooters had a good time.

Our Cold Bore shot was at 465 yards and all shooters made the hit except for one shooter.

Todays Top Shooter was Rich Gonzalez with a total score of 716 points. Very good job Rich. No more newbie for you. Get a mag system Rich and your times will go down and scores go up. Your doing great.

The steel again was alot of fun and we were finished with the 500 yard line by 0930 and then moved to the 200 yard line and the shade. As always we mixed steel in with paper and shot holdover, dial up, back and forth, front to back and back to front. Barricades and all positions were included so we had a pretty good mix of stages before the break.

Order of finish for today.

1) Rich Gonzalez-716 Points
2) Brandon McGaffey-685 Points
3) Scott Cochran-557 Points
4) Brad Bolves-465 Points
5) Henry Song-386 Points
6) Keith Nelson-363 Points
7) Albert Baragas-98 Points

By the way the CAPRC is having their monthly match next month, second Sunday of the month at Angeles Shooting Range so pencil that in since we will not be having a match in August.

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Looks like you all had a good time. Nice pics.

Damn Rich.. good job man!!

Hopefully the weather will be better in Sept and ill see you guys out there.

Excellent job guys...Mark I really like the yellow/orange color of the targets. Can find them quickly...Where is Ben, Randall, Ryan, James, Charlie, Joe V & Joe H., or Kurtis?...

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God shoots a Remington 700, drives a Chevy Truck and carries a Glock 19.
I don't do any of those things.

A lot of places teaches you, find it with your eyes, kill it with your scope.


Francis does the exact same thing for the exact same reason Ryan mentioned. It's faster to find it with both eyes and point your rifle to it sometimes. It's all personal preference anyways. + Brandon cleaned the stage so it's hard to argue with results.


However, that is an interested sitting position a few pics up.

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Oh I understand that people can adapt and over come. It's like using a sand sock for rear rest bud. Adapting with the hardware you have in your ruck.


However, in the spirits of certain COFs, sitting sometimes doesnt mean just on your ass. Some MDs like to see one sling up and shoot a tradition rifleman's position.


Fine line between gaming and adapting. Ask Jiko.

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I've thought about the bipod on the foot deal.. decided against it since the bipod was deployed AND USED. Leans too far into the "gaming" realm. No bipod and I'd think it was ok.

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Henry...where is your red sweatshirt?

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Sounds like we need one of these:

Damn...a Gay bash.

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Is that dude keeping his trigger finger warm? ha! ha!

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The good thing about gaming, it only happens at West End Gun Club and no where else....

With gay men pics engaged too on the Forum.

And I thought it was just about rifles and matches, what was I thinking...

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It was a group hug! Who's in?!

I've seen gaming all over the place in varying degrees. The way I figure it is: Win with some fucking integrity!
It's just a matter of what's acceptable to the shooter and within the rules.

Mark,

No one here said gaming only happens at WEGC. It happens every where, however most MDs don't praise it by calling it adapting and over coming. There was a lil gaming at TBRC 2010, 95% of the match was without it. We'll remedy the other 5% next year.

That picture posted was taken at SCPRC 2009 during a stage that was allowed to be game by first squad throwing their bi-pods on their packs. After that, it was a free for all. I remember because I asked if that shit was legal or not, you indicated yes, and there you have it.

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DR...if you feel that way, it must be a sign of guilt.


Ryan, I understand what you are saying bud, however you and I both know there is a fine line between the gaming and adapting.


You and I both saw what flexibility can be turned into with Jiko's famous ass up/face down move he is so good at.

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It ok DR, no need for guilt. And since you cleaned it, it was too easy, so we'll fix that.

You guys operated within the rules. There were some other things I saw that needed to be fixed. We are always striving to make things better up here.


Your comparison of matches to real world two way ranges has no merit though.

Personally I define our sport/discipline as "long range precision shooting and competition with simulated field conditions in a controlled environment." In any controlled environment there has to be standards and rules set.

I guess it is hard to explain unless you guys put on a big show with 50K on the table. Once you do that and get all the hate mail for guys gaming and this and that. You'll understand why things are done the way they are.

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I don't do any of those things.

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God shoots a Remington 700, drives a Chevy Truck and carries a Glock 19.
I don't do any of those things.

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God shoots a Remington 700, drives a Chevy Truck and carries a Glock 19.
I don't do any of those things.

DR, no worries man. No harm, no foul.

People will cry no matter what, you guys did a great job at TBRC.

Ryan, give me a holla whenevers.

Let us know when you get ASC west going.

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It is just going to depend on what the stage is supposed to be... a test of a fundamental/traditional shooting position, a run what you brung how ever you want to, or something in between.

The intent of the stage should be made clear and if the RO/MD deems whatever you are doing to be foul ... fix it or move on with your 0.

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