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CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:07 am
by AR15barrels
Come on out and join us for our "long range day" on Saturday May 22nd.
We will spend the day past 400yds on steel plates from prone.
You should already have a good 100yd zero and an idea of your come-ups to 1000yds.

We meet-up at a park-and-ride in Newhall and carpool out to the range.
The address is 23628 Newhall Ave.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 16&iwloc=A
Please note that Newhall Ave used to be called San Fernando Road.
Outdated online mapping and in-car navigation systems still show San Fernando Road, but the sign on the freeway now says Newhall Ave.
There are multiple park-and-rides on Newhall Ave so make sure you arrive at the correct one which is just over 1/2 a mile west of the 14fwy on the north side of the street.

If you plan to attend and you are coming from the south, please arrive at the Newhall park & ride between 7:30am and 7:45am on the morning of the shoot.
We will work out the carpool situation at that time.
We roll out as a caravan at 8:00 sharp and don't wait for late people.
It's about an hour's drive to the shooting location.

Trucks and SUV's are preferred for navigating the 1000yds or so of dirt roads once we arrive at the shooting location.
In the past, passenger cars have made it up the road, but many people are not comfortable on the dirt roads in a car due to the conditions of the dirt roads.
In this case, cars can park just off the asphalt and we will shuttle you up to the shooting position as required.

If you live north of the greater LA area, please PM me for directions on where to meet up with us on the way to the shooting spot.
We should be arriving at the shooting spot right around 9am.

Some things to bring:
Precision rifle wearing a scope with target knobs, eye/ear protection, sunscreen, chamber flag, 60 rounds of match quality ammo, printout from a ballistics program showing your bullet drop in moa or mils as appropriate to your scope, shooting mat or blanket, bipod, some kind of rear bag or sand sock, small notepad to take notes, pencil or pen, laser rangefinder, food & water for 6 hours, backpack or bag to carry everything.
Bring what you have, don't worry too much about what you don't have.
We always make do with what we have.

This is a Precision Rifle event so if the gun/scope/ammo is not capable of shooting tight groups, it will detract from your overall experience at the shoot.
Please have your rifle zeroed at 100yds and your knobs set to zero.
If you need help with this, we can do it at the shoot, but it takes a lot of time that is better spent putting rounds on targets much further away than 100yds.

Semi-autos are welcome as long as they have brass catchers or the shooter employs some other method to eliminate hot flying brass.
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A view of the targets from the firing line:
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We will be out in the high desert so dress accordingly including a hat and hiking boots as we will sometimes be moving around on steep terrain.
Weather should be somewhere between 30 and 110 degrees.

Some cell phones will work at the shooting spot and we have had 3g service in the past.

Please RSVP in this thread by the Friday before the shoot if you plan to attend.
We need to get an accurate head count of how many to expect.
Non-shooters are welcome of course and you will still learn a bunch even if you are not shooting.
When you RSVP, please make a note to whether you need a ride or if you can give someone a ride that does not have a truck or SUV to make it up the dirt roads.

A $20 donation to the club helps us buy more targets and supplies.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:21 am
by DirtRacer151
Ill be there

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:37 am
by aermotor
Definitely in. Any possibility of camping at the spot overnight... Crazy? Sadistic? Stupid? Awesome?

Anyone have cords or a google maps the to exact park and ride? Never been there before.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:06 pm
by Cbad308
I too am curious if camping over is an option.

~A
aermotor wrote:Definitely in. Any possibility of camping at the spot overnight... Crazy? Sadistic? Stupid? Awesome?

Anyone have cords or a google maps the to exact park and ride? Never been there before.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:16 pm
by DirtRacer151
aermotor wrote:Definitely in. Any possibility of camping at the spot overnight... Crazy? Sadistic? Stupid? Awesome?

Anyone have cords or a google maps the to exact park and ride? Never been there before.
You could camp over night although it wouldn't be a prime camping spot IMHO

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:01 pm
by oni
Im In

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:15 pm
by rksimple
I'll be there.

I used to camp out at the spot all the time growing up. Down the hill from the firing line is a nice wind-protected little spot. You'd have fun.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:55 pm
by aermotor
Could be fun guys... hanging, hotdogs, baked beans, brews... I'm just saying...

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:06 pm
by Cbad308
Aermotor, I'd be interested in heading up Friday night.

~A
aermotor wrote:Could be fun guys... hanging, hotdogs, baked beans, brews... I'm just saying...

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:22 pm
by DirtRacer151
aermotor wrote:Could be fun guys... hanging, hotdogs, baked beans, brews... I'm just saying...

Zach... I am in and so is Brian. Up for some yote hunting in the early AM before the shoot? That is if we aren't still shit faced :lol:

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:23 pm
by DirtRacer151
aermotor wrote:Could be fun guys... hanging, hotdogs, baked beans, brews... I'm just saying...
you forgot to add GUNS!!!!!!!!!

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:27 pm
by rksimple
You guys will have a blast. I always see coyote tracks in that wash. Especially about 500 yards up from the firing line. Theres a low spot that collects water where they like to go.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:32 pm
by DirtRacer151
rksimple wrote:You guys will have a blast.
oh come on Ryan!! Guns, campfire food, and Alcohol??!! :D

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:37 pm
by Cbad308
this one time at bandcamp :shock: JK

~A
DirtRacer151 wrote:
oh come on Ryan!! Guns, campfire food, and Alcohol??!! :D

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:43 pm
by aermotor
DirtRacer151 wrote:you forgot to add GUNS!!!!!!!!!
DOH!!!

My oh my this is sounding better and better every minute! Do you know how to get to the spot James? Early am yotes sounds amazing as well, my .308 might be a TAD much for one... *pink mist* — Looks like I need my hunting license asap. Do we need to use lead free for them or does it not matter?

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:46 pm
by DirtRacer151
aermotor wrote:
DOH!!!

My oh my this is sounding better and better every minute! Do you know how to get to the spot James? Early am yotes sounds amazing as well, my .308 might be a TAD much for one... *pink mist*
Yes i do. We can meet somewhere in Lancaster or Palmdale

Do you have a 2009/2010 hunting license?

.308 thats all you got? Shit.. i just might bring the .444 out for some pink mist 8-)

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:04 pm
by AR15barrels
You guys can all camp out at the spot.
I'm gonna camp at Ryan's, drink whiskey and watch episodes of top sniper.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:07 pm
by rksimple
DirtRacer151 wrote:
oh come on Ryan!! Guns, campfire food, and Alcohol??!! :D
Sounds like fun. I may show up for a bit. What time you guys planning on rolling up?

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:25 pm
by DirtRacer151
rksimple wrote:
Sounds like fun. I may show up for a bit. What time you guys planning on rolling up?
No set in stone plans yet but i work that friday so it will be 7:30 or so before we get up there unless i can arrange to get off early that day.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:28 pm
by 264Charlie
I will be in Mexico... Have fun guys.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:27 pm
by Connor P Price
Sounds like I picked a crappy shoot to have to miss. You guys have fun out there. I'll be at work again instead of shooting. :evil:

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:08 pm
by Cbad308
Surfing???

~A
264Charlie wrote:I will be in Mexico... Have fun guys.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:41 pm
by aermotor
I've got a 16" and 20" AR15 with a compact 4x scope which would do me fine if .223 is aloud for varmint hunting... Would need to get some 75gr I would think though cause all I have are 55s. What you think?

I really need a .243 bolt for hunting.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:45 pm
by DirtRacer151
aermotor wrote:I've got a 16" and 20" AR15 with a compact 4x scope which would do me fine if .223 is aloud for varmint hunting... Would need to get some 75gr I would think though cause all I have are 55s. What you think?

I really need a .243 bolt for hunting.
People shoot yotes with 17hmr. Your fine with 55gr bullets. I think i'd be happy if we actually called one in to be honest. It will be fun trying though

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:49 pm
by brian01tj
aermotor wrote:I've got a 16" and 20" AR15 with a compact 4x scope which would do me fine if .223 is aloud for varmint hunting... Would need to get some 75gr I would think though cause all I have are 55s. What you think?

I really need a .243 bolt for hunting.

This why why you built your rifle. Nothing better than a mover at 500+ yards stopped in his tracks :D

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:53 pm
by brian01tj
And yes, Ill be there Friday night with you guys. Anyone staying friday and happen to have night vision? Ive always wanted to check one out. Its supposed to be 70% of a full moon so long as there's no cloud cover.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:21 pm
by aermotor
Yea anytime late afternoon on Friday works for me, just let me know James. Prolly best if you guys just pick me up on the way since I'm right off the 210 if that's cool. Are we camping in tents, car, under the stars? I bet it gets near freezing at night up at 4K I'd think.

Taking my 20" AR to the range tomorrow to get it dialed in a bit better as well.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:27 pm
by DirtRacer151
aermotor wrote:Yea anytime late afternoon on Friday works for me, just let me know James. Prolly best if you guys just pick me up on the way since I'm right off the 210 if that's cool. Are we camping in tents, car, under the stars? I bet it gets near freezing at night up at 4K I'd think.

Taking my 20" AR to the range tomorrow to get it dialed in a bit better as well.
We take the 138 through Palmdale because its about 30min faster. We could drop your car in palmdale if you'd like.

I have a tent big enough to sleep 5-6 guys with room to spare.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:33 pm
by AR15barrels
DirtRacer151 wrote:I have a tent big enough to sleep 5-6 guys with room to spare.
What happens in the tent, stays in the tent.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:45 pm
by brian01tj
AR15barrels wrote:What happens in the tent, stays in the tent.
We may share a tent but not a sleeping bag

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:48 pm
by aermotor
Yea okay, just need to find a place near the 14/138 where I can leave it overnight and it's kosher. We should get some sort of list of stuff going and who's bringing what.

Does anyone have a fire pit? 55 gal metal drum cut down?
I've got firewood I can bring.
BYOB/BYOF?
James has got the tent.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:06 am
by 264Charlie
Nope Drinking
Cbad308 wrote:Surfing???

~A

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:12 am
by Crow King
I'll be there. This will be my first time. I'll be driving a car and coming from Orange County.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:41 am
by DirtRacer151
Should we organize some ez-ups for shade guys?

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:19 am
by linkpimp
Does anyone want to carpool?? I’m in Huntington Beach and can swing by and get you on the way out?

FYI..
This is my first time out there and will more than likely be my rifles first time out as well. Sorry guys..

I’ve got a suburban so it holds a lot of equipment and some people too ;)

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:18 am
by AR15barrels
DirtRacer151 wrote:Should we organize some ez-ups for shade guys?
There should already be 2 ez-ups that the club owns.
We keep them at Ryan's house.
And yes, I think it's time to start deploying them.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:20 am
by DirtRacer151
AR15barrels wrote:
There should already be 2 ez-ups that the club owns.
We keep them at Ryan's house.
And yes, I think it's time to start deploying them.
Ill bring mine as well. 3 usually seems to cover most of the line

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:21 am
by DirtRacer151
AR15barrels wrote:
There should already be 2 ez-ups that the club owns.
We keep them at Ryan's house.
And yes, I think it's time to start deploying them.
Ill bring mine as well. 3 usually seems to cover most of the line

Any need for a dirtbike to go fix targets in a hurry or put up/take down?

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:23 am
by rksimple
A bike may come in handy out there. A quad even better.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:29 am
by DirtRacer151
rksimple wrote:A bike may come in handy out there. A quad even better.
OK I can bring a quad instead if you guys would like

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:47 am
by aermotor
Seems like that'd be really handy for getting out to targets, good call. James, let's figure out in the next few days where to meet up in Palmdale or maybe I'll just follow you to the spot.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:32 pm
by DirtRacer151
add one new shooter that i'll be bringing

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:50 pm
by Christian
I'll be there also.

Christian

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:14 pm
by thekidprodigy87
hey guys,
I have not met up with you guys yet and I have a few questions.
I have a compact car with some tight suspension. Will I be okay on the dirt road if i drive slow.
what time should I expect to be back in newhall?
Is it legal to shoot where we are shooting?
do i need a hunting license?
I dont have a chamber flag or boresighter and i haven't zerodmy scope because i just got it. Am I still okay to come with?
Are people really going to be drinking alcohol there or was that a joke I missed?
The only long gun Case i Have is a big heavy hard pelican case, are we hiking far?

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:19 pm
by DirtRacer151
thekidprodigy87 wrote:hey guys,
I have not met up with you guys yet and I have a few questions.
I have a compact car with some tight suspension. Will I be okay on the dirt road if i drive slow. I wouldn't do it if you have a nice car
what time should I expect to be back in newhall? anywhere between 2-5pm
Is it legal to shoot where we are shooting? yes
do i need a hunting license? no
I dont have a chamber flag or boresighter and i haven't zerodmy scope because i just got it. Am I still okay to come with? yes.. we will help you out
Are people really going to be drinking alcohol there or was that a joke I missed? the drinking will occur the night before the shoot. no alcohol allowed on the firing line
The only long gun Case i Have is a big heavy hard pelican case, are we hiking far? no... you will be fine

answered in red

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:34 pm
by thekidprodigy87
thanks a lot

what part of the mountains is it in?

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:40 pm
by DirtRacer151
thekidprodigy87 wrote:thanks a lot

what part of the mountains is it in?
near tehachapi/edwards AFB

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:45 pm
by thekidprodigy87
will i be okay with american tactical 308 its turkish nato and it supposedly lot tested to be 1 moa does anyone have any experience with this?

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:51 pm
by Connor P Price
You'll want match grade ammunition to get everything you can out of the shoot. Almost everyone there will be hand loading their ammo, if anyone doesn't they usually have federal gold medal match, black hills match, or US military sniper grade ammo. You certainly can shoot with your Turkish ammo, but it will detract from the experience. I'm not sure if the ammo you have is steel core or not, if it is, it'd probably be best not to shoot it at the steel targets as it damages them.

Re: CaPRC training day Saturday May 22nd

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:30 pm
by aermotor
To really have fun I'd really suggest you go to the range and zero before coming... this months practice isn't the standard get everyone zeroed and ready but more for longer range stuff. Randall can answer better than me.