For those stages in the Long Range matches that specify shooting from an unsupported position, the following are pictures of acceptable positions. Use of a sling is allowed, but not required. The Steel matches may have other restrictions.

In ALL positions the butt stock of the rifle MUST be at the top or front of the shoulder.
The HANDS may NOT touch the ground.
No part of the rifle may touch the ground to offer any kind of support.
Any supporting surface except the ground not specifically authorized by the MATCH DIRECTORS for use in the position prescribed is PROHIBITED.
Match Directors have the authority to DQ a competitor for a string of fire if in their opinion the position a competitor uses violates the spirit and intent of the stage.

Standing Off Hand



Kneeling

Photo courtesy of the CMP




Sitting Positions

Cross Leg

Photo courtesy of the CMP


Crossed Ankle

Photo courtesy of the CMP


Open Leg



Modified Creedmor
We will allow this at the long range match because we have some shooters who have physical limitations that prevent them from shooting from the traditional sitting positions.



Prone Unsupported
Points of contact with the ground means the elbows and the body/torso.

Photo courtesy of the CMP

So Cal is limbering up for 2011 TBRC

just sayin.....

Great pics. This will make for less headache when it comes to enforcing things.

The "spirit and intent of the stage" is something I see causing problems. Comes down to personal interpretation and opinion. If we used the "spirit and intent of the law" shit, we wouldn't have off list lowers.

rksimple wrote:Great pics. This will make for less headache when it comes to enforcing things.

The "spirit and intent of the stage" is something I see causing problems. Comes down to personal interpretation. If we used the "spirit and intent of the law" shit, we wouldn't have off list lowers.

I thought they intended the law be written so i could have off list lowers

I like prone unsupported the best!!

DirtRacer151 wrote:So Cal is limbering up for 2011 TBRC

just sayin.....

I don't make the rules for the TBRC. This is for our monthly LR match.

rksimple wrote:Great pics. This will make for less headache when it comes to enforcing things.

Thank you. I'm trying.

Comes down to personal interpretation and opinion.

There's only two opinions that matter. Sam's and ....see sig line
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This position(unsupported prone) made Dennis quit APTS matches (inside joke, sorry)

shooter65 wrote:I like prone unsupported the best!!

What you lack in caliber selection skills you make up for in your taste in women. I like your style kid

rksimple wrote:The "spirit and intent of the stage" is something I see causing problems.

That's always a possibility.

But let me just say this so that there is no misunderstanding. (this is NOT directed at any person in particular)

This monthly match was happening long before the NCPPRC. It was a way for guys to get together and shoot long range with scoped rifles and have fun and not worry too much about being ultra competitive. We have evolved and that's been a good thing. But the main thing is still to provide a venue for people to come shoot LR with what ever they have and have fun. We do not have the time, and I don't want to put out the effort every month to drag out a bunch of equipment to force people to shoot a certain way.

Hence the pictures to show what I'm trying to accomplish, what you can expect and be prepared to do.

If someone feels so strongly about circumventing the intent of a COF or stage of fire that they need to go to extremes to gain some of kind of edge, I WILL BE THE BIGGEST PRICK MD/RO YOU HAVE SHOT UNDER. I will kick your foot, tell you to stop shooting, give you your money back and tell you to leave the range. I will not tolerate behavior that is disruptive to the well being of the event I run.

What's done and allowed at other events by other MDs is up to them. That's their business and it's perfectly ok with me for them to allow what ever they want.

shooter65 wrote:I like prone unsupported the best!!

predictable.......... Great minds think alike!

I got your "kid" for you son.

DirtRacer151 wrote:
What you lack in caliber selection skills you make up for in your taste in women. I like your style kid

I hear ya Rob. For monthlies, it should be easy. A no brainer. It's the Tbrc I was mostly talking about. Someone will always complain. This wasn't disallowed, you didn't say this, that, whatever. Thats why the pics and explanations are perfect. Very well described. Don't follow the rules, don't get any points. Simple.

So would this not be an acceptable seated position?

AR15barrels wrote:So would this not be an acceptable seated position?

That would be acceptable as I see it for our monthly LR match as it is similar to the 4th sitting position picture.

Rob, the picture of the kneeling position with the man looks like Scotty Reitz, is that correct or is that you....

Gnzrme wrote:Rob, the picture of the kneeling position with the man looks like Scotty Reitz, is that correct or is that you....

That's Marc Soulie.
Rob is the one demonstrating offhand. ;)

For those stages in the Long Range matches that specify shooting from an unsupported position, the following are pictures of acceptable positions. Use of a sling is allowed, but not required. The Steel matches may have other restrictions.

Rob Thomas-

Very good Rob, thanks for positing and forward thinking as well. If a shooting position is defined ahead of time for a monthly event or big match then there is no mystery in how to shoot that position that is required. Interpertation can be a cause for debate on the line. If it's spelled out ahead time then there is no question. Some matches due to the hasty nature of a stage may require kneeling or you may have to get into a kneeling position just because it's the only way to shoot it and that may bring forth a hybrid of that position just to get the stage done.
However, if there are strict rules by the MD then it is what it is.

Thanks for posting the pics and defined positions, its appreciated.

Mark