11/10/13 CAPRC Match

264Charlie · Post by **264Charlie** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:45 pm

For the first time in history I have ammo before 2AM. Shit even loaded 70 for Nick. I love powder throwers, if this shoots I might never use my CM again.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:28 pm

Last minute family stuff. I'm out for tomorrow, have fun guys!

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:58 pm

I am in for tomorrow.... Loaded up some ammo at Randall's.... Steel is up, should be good to go....

Chevroletkid88 · Post by **Chevroletkid88** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:54 pm

Gunna be rocking a lefty tomorrow. Can't wait to throw some lead down range and see what it hits

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:54 pm

It was fun today. Congrats to the top shooter

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264Charlie · Post by **264Charlie** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:30 pm

Fun match. Huge thank you to Randall, Brad and Rich C for running the line. If you can shoot well at this match you can shoot well anywhere, good mix of skills is needed to win.

Danny might be as fast as Solomon, he kicked my ass in the man on man. Nice work.

Is was great to see and shoot with everyone again. see you all soon.

Chevroletkid88 · Post by **Chevroletkid88** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:33 pm

Had a good time out there with all of you guys. Cant wait to do it again

264Charlie · Post by **264Charlie** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:36 pm

Chevroletkid88 wrote:Had a good time out there with all of you guys. Cant wait to do it again

Can't believe you shot left handed the whole match. That was badass.

LOVMUFN · Post by **LOVMUFN** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:37 pm

It was nice getting out and shooting with all of you. Been way too long.

Chevroletkid88 · Post by **Chevroletkid88** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:38 pm

What would have been bad ass is if i would have actually done well. Thanks again for the rifle and ammo man. That little hunter is a fucking sweet gun

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:40 pm

Who left something behind? I have it P.M. Me

postal · Post by **postal** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:21 pm

Thanks for the match. Lot of fun.

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:24 pm

Downrange67 wrote:Who left something behind? I have it P.M. Me

Is this Charlie?

Let me check my shit......

Post by **Treadstone** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:36 pm

Awesome time today. Really enjoyed the Man on Man stage! Thanks everyone!

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:55 pm

I have something that was left behind with a flush cup swivel hanging off of it.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:56 pm

buffybuster wrote: Is this Charlie?

Let me check my shit......

It's Henry

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:58 pm

Downrange67 wrote:Who left something behind? I have it P.M. Me

I think we left Brad's Leupold Spotting scope, tripod and bags.

peerless · Post by **peerless** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:08 pm

Thumbs up to the winners, good job,
It was nice seeing all you guys again ,it has been a while,seeing you shoot the match really motivated me to get back and start shooting again
watching Danny shoot the man vs.man stage was great .

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:08 pm

I have the scope Randall! But I didn't see any bags
The bag you found its Charlie's

264Charlie · Post by **264Charlie** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:30 pm

Nick - Less the scope.

Randall the bag is mine .

Sent from my iPhone.

Post by **thegiff** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:50 pm

Thanks for putting on a great match, bro and I had a good time!

MichaelV · Post by **MichaelV** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:05 pm

Great match! Thanks Randall, Brad and everyone for another good time.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:13 pm

peerless wrote:Thumbs up to the winners, good job,
It was nice seeing all you guys again ,it has been a while,seeing you shoot the match really motivated me to get back and start shooting again
watching Danny shoot the man vs.man stage was great .

And still choked at the end. Lol

ddragon76 · Post by **ddragon76** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:14 pm

Want to thank everyone for helping me out! The most fun i've had shooting!
Talking about steep learning curve

Will prepare better next time!
Thank you all!

Post by **Mobius38** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:17 pm

That was a fun match! Worth the 4am wake up for a 8:00 start! Any chance anyone has some photos as well as the score sheet?

Stoopy · Post by **Stoopy** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:22 pm

ddragon76 wrote:Want to thank everyone for helping me out! The most fun i've had shooting!
Talking about steep learning curve Will prepare better next time!
Thank you all!

What did you learn today? What do you want to improve on? How are you going to practice to improve? If you have answers for these then you are off to a great start.

Post by **Gnzrme** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:48 pm

Had a great time... Could have done better, but still had fun...

Nosmas · Post by **Nosmas** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:43 pm

Thanks for setting up a great match. I had lots of fun and I definitely need to work on barricades and positional shooting

LOVMUFN · Post by **LOVMUFN** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:48 pm

Gnzrme wrote:Could have done better

It is funny, no matter how much you practice, now matter how bad ass you are, it really just boils down to fucking up less than the other guy. I have never walked away from a match without some version of this in my head... "If only I had not X, I would have had JUST Y more points and gotten Z place."

Haha

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:50 pm

LOVMUFN wrote:no matter how much you practice, now matter how bad ass you are, it really just boils down to fucking up less than the other guy. I have never walked away from a match without some version of this in my head... "If only I had not X, I would have had JUST Y more points and gotten Z place."

Everyone does that after every match.

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:54 pm

LOVMUFN wrote:
It is funny, no matter how much you practice, now matter how bad ass you are, it really just boils down to fucking up less than the other guy. I have never walked away from a match without some version of this in my head... "If only I had not X, I would have had JUST Y more points and gotten Z place."

Haha

That's why it's so addicting. You will NEVER shoot a perfect match.

Post by **thegiff** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:20 am

buffybuster wrote: That's why it's so addicting. You will NEVER shoot a perfect match.

Likewise, bro and I beat ourselves up over the misses and screw-ups and WTF's all the way home, and the next day, and the next day...

His right now is "why's my zero off???!!!"

Mine is "damn, why'd I shoot the hostage?" and "damn, missed the cold bore", and "damn was at my truck retrieving something when I should have been shooting the 2 round warmup/zerocheck."

Oh well, that's what makes it an interesting and fun challenge!

Post by **Gnzrme** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:40 am

Randall, post up the stage by stage score sheet....

skunkdevo · Post by **skunkdevo** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:44 am

Thanks everyone for a great match and rallying to come out on such short notice. It’s always good to see everyone and I always learn a lot from ya’ll every time.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:34 am

That was a fun match! I had a great time! Even with 2 jams
And a bullet pulling apart on one stage. Congrats to the winners
And Randall for putting this together last minute and Rich for running some
Of the stages.

nevertipsy · Post by **nevertipsy** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:59 pm

Hey everyone, is was a pleasure meeting everyone and watching the match. Thank you for letting me attend, and thanks to Randall to throwing this all together! I was the last one to leave, but Esteban and I noticed someone left behind this outer shirt:

Shirt left behind by nevertipsy, on Flickr

If you left it behind, or know who it belongs, let them know, I can hang onto it til the next match.

postal · Post by **postal** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:06 pm

Stoopy wrote: What did you learn today? What do you want to improve on? How are you going to practice to improve? If you have answers for these then you are off to a great start.

I forgot... I think Dmitri was 11th. *Really* good for a first run. He kicked my butt since I had 100yd zero issues that threw me off for quite a few stages til I got dialed in.... And he had ammo/mag issues... his ammo wouldnt fit in the mag -so early on had jams from the mag and switched to single feed for the rest of the match.

He said he was dropping out of the matches until getting a 5/10 round DBM setup and be sure his ammo fits in the mags. (running an FN and FN has a bolt in setup available)

After that, I'm sure he'll be back.

Good to meet ya Dmitri. You did really well for a first match. Like I said, you beat me and a number of others that have been doing this for awhile....

postal · Post by **postal** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:11 pm

thegiff wrote:
Likewise, bro and I beat ourselves up over the misses and screw-ups and WTF's all the way home, and the next day, and the next day...

His right now is "why's my zero off???!!!"

Mine is "damn, why'd I shoot the hostage?" and "damn, missed the cold bore", and "damn was at my truck retrieving something when I should have been shooting the 2 round warmup/zerocheck."

Oh well, that's what makes it an interesting and fun challenge!

Yeah... after EVERY match... everyone looks over their mistakes....

I still dont know what happened, and why my 100yd zero was jacked up. (elevation perfect- windage- 3" right) It really cost me trying to get dialed in over several stages. But at least for once, I didnt shoot the hostage....

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:20 pm

Dimitri,

If you're the guy running the FN-SPR with a factory DBM. The FN-SPR is a nice piece of kit. The OEM DBM is a POS.
Buy a CDI bottom-metal and have you action modified for it.

Yes, you will void your FN warranty.
Yes, it's worth it.

postal · Post by **postal** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:28 pm

^^^Yeah-
Dmitri was running the FN. He told me they have a different factory DBM bolt on that takes 5 and 10 rounders included. Unfortunately I dont know the COAL those mags take... as I recall his rounds were 308 win at 2.840? They didnt fit his factory flush mag, but I checked one in an AICS and it's a little tight, but they fit.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:50 pm

nevertipsy wrote:Hey everyone, is was a pleasure meeting everyone and watching the match. Thank you for letting me attend, and thanks to Randall to throwing this all together! I was the last one to leave, but Esteban and I noticed someone left behind this outer shirt:

Shirt left behind by nevertipsy, on Flickr

If you left it behind, or know who it belongs, let them know, I can hang onto it til the next match.

Hey bruce,

Its mine! thanks for picking it up!

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:54 pm

postal wrote:^^^Yeah-
Dmitri was running the FN. He told me they have a different factory DBM bolt on that takes 5 and 10 rounders included. Unfortunately I dont know the COAL those mags take... as I recall his rounds were 308 win at 2.840? They didnt fit his factory flush mag, but I checked one in an AICS and it's a little tight, but they fit.

2.840? thats a long factory round!

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:10 pm

Anyone take a picture of the results? I want to see how badly I sucked.

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:43 pm

buffybuster wrote:Anyone take a picture of the results? I want to see how badly I sucked.

You got top 308

Post by **AR15barrels** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:17 pm

buffybuster wrote:You will NEVER shoot a perfect match.

I did it one time, at west end.
I hit every shot possible the whole day except getting beat at the man-on-man.
Need to work on man-on-man...

postal · Post by **postal** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:41 pm

Downrange67 wrote:
2.840? thats a long factory round!

He was running reloads with Amax. Probably 178g. Still really long. Thats what he said his factory chamber liked, but his mag doesnt...

He's set on buying an FN DBM setup that comes with a 5 and 10 round mag that is supposed to bolt right in. I dont know the details of the mag.... I checked, and 2.840 does fit AICS mags, but I dont know the spec of this drop in FN DBM setup he wants.

I did tell him 2.810 is the more common long COAL for SMK... I dont know about the Amax, but I guess 2.810 is pretty common across the board to fit mag length safely.

ddragon76 · Post by **ddragon76** » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:57 am

I'm a little confused, i want to install this kit: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/932445 ... -magazines" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is there a reason to get CDI instead of this?

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:11 am

264Charlie wrote:For the first time in history I have ammo before 2AM. Shit even loaded 70 for Nick. I love powder throwers, if this shoots I might never use my CM again.

What's the verdict Charley? How did the loads perform. I'm starting to learn how to throw more consistent on my powder thrower. It does take a little learning curve. I can usually get within a .1 most of the time.

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:13 am

ddragon76 wrote:I'm a little confused, i want to install this kit: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/932445 ... -magazines" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is there a reason to get CDI instead of this?

The FN unit is supposed to be improved but you are stuck using the proprietary mags. You do keep the warranty.

The CDI setup allows you to us the ubiquitous AICS mags, but to does require machining of the receiver.

Another recent choice is PTG has a Win/FN DBM that drops in, does not require any modifications, but requires the use of single stack AIAE mags.

The CDI is the most versatile but requires machining the action. Between the FN-TBM or PTG, it is a tough choice.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:24 pm

buffybuster wrote:The FN unit is supposed to be improved but you are stuck using the proprietary mags. You do keep the warranty.

The CDI setup allows you to us the ubiquitous AICS mags, but to does require machining of the receiver.

Another recent choice is PTG has a Win/FN DBM that drops in, does not require any modifications, but requires the use of single stack AIAE mags.

The CDI is the most versatile but requires machining the action. Between the FN-TBM or PTG, it is a tough choice.

I have machined a few FN actions for CDI bottom metel.
It is a very small amount of machining that is necessary.