CaPRC match at Angeles 3/13/11

Teletiger7 · Post by **Teletiger7** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:54 pm

brian01tj wrote:
How do you make it safe for people to run up a roof carrying a rifle?

They can use their sling if they have to

vu308 · Post by **vu308** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:24 pm

brian01tj wrote:
How do you make it safe for people to run up a roof carrying a rifle?

Rather simple really. You make sure people follow your basic safety rules I am sure you guys already have in place.

Muzzle Control
Bolts open
Finger straight.

brian01tj · Post by **brian01tj** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:43 pm

vu308 wrote:
Rather simple really. You make sure people follow your basic safety rules I am sure you guys already have in place.

Muzzle Control
Bolts open
Finger straight.

All of which we follow. That statement was a small attempt at getting him to rethink that stage and allow us to be in a ready to fire position from the start. looks like it didnt work

brian01tj · Post by **brian01tj** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:44 pm

Only 6 spots open people....lets get these filled plus a couple on the waiting list so we can have a full house this month

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:56 pm

brian01tj wrote:
All of which we follow. That statement was a small attempt at getting him to rethink that stage and allow us to be in a ready to fire position from the start. looks like it didnt work

It's more of an issue with the range we shoot at. I have no problems running up it. Others in the club might not be so lucky and either way you look at it Angeles isn't going to like it.

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:01 pm

Anyone, who is staying a few hours after the match, have a chronograph they can bring for me to use? If I shoot it= i buy it and all that jazz.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:09 pm

GforceJunkie wrote:Anyone, who is staying a few hours after the match, have a chronograph they can bring for me to use? If I shoot it= i buy it and all that jazz.

I might stay for a bit after the match. I'll bring my chrono.

Are you load testing or developing a DOPE card?

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:22 pm

DirtRacer151 wrote: I might stay for a bit after the match. I'll bring my chrono.

Are you load testing or developing a DOPE card?

To do this after the match seems a bit ass backwards........

Have fun gentlemen. Can't make this one, Dad duties this weekend.

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:22 pm

Load testing, need to verify velocitys. Thanks, and even if your not staying around long, I really only need to blast a dozen or so rounds over it to get what I want.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:25 pm

GforceJunkie wrote:Load testing, need to verify velocitys. Thanks, and even if your not staying around long, I really only need to blast a dozen or so rounds over it to get what I want.

no prob.. ill bring it then

brian01tj · Post by **brian01tj** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:30 pm

GforceJunkie wrote:Load testing, need to verify velocitys. Thanks, and even if your not staying around long, I really only need to blast a dozen or so rounds over it to get what I want.

His reason for asking is that weve found the ballistic programs soft dope doesnt always match hard dope weve gathered when you enter in the velocity that the chrono gave us. This will not always be the case. Mine for example chronoed on two seperate ones at 2670 but my shooter ballistic program only matches my hard dope if I enter the velocity at 2725. Im pretty sure James had to do the same for his as well.

Post by **oni** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:45 pm

brian01tj wrote:
His reason for asking is that weve found the ballistic programs soft dope doesnt always match hard dope weve gathered when you enter in the velocity that the chrono gave us. This will not always be the case. Mine for example chronoed on two seperate ones at 2670 but my shooter ballistic program only matches my hard dope if I enter the velocity at 2725. Im pretty sure James had to do the same for his as well.

Is your scope height correct in the ballistic program?

brian01tj · Post by **brian01tj** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:50 pm

oni wrote:
Is your scope height correct in the ballistic program?

Yeah within a few thousandths

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:52 pm

oni wrote:
Is your scope height correct in the ballistic program?

Yes. Chronos don't mean anything for producing dope cards in comparison to using actual dope. I chronoed on 2-3 different chronos when i first built my 260. None of them were as accurate as taking my 1000yd hard dope and adjusting my velocity to match and then building the rest of my dope card off that. In my opinion chronos are really only useful for load development for comparison purposes.

GforceJunkie · Post by **GforceJunkie** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:21 pm

I gotcha, I'm just trying to figure out why my load that is 1 1/2 grains under max, and a very common load is flattening primers. I want to see what velocity it is doing. I'm basically starting totally over with all load develepoment and once I know what i have, then I'll worry about the hard and soft dope, but I cant do shit untill I have something to shoot.

brian01tj wrote:
His reason for asking is that weve found the ballistic programs soft dope doesnt always match hard dope weve gathered when you enter in the velocity that the chrono gave us. This will not always be the case. Mine for example chronoed on two seperate ones at 2670 but my shooter ballistic program only matches my hard dope if I enter the velocity at 2725. Im pretty sure James had to do the same for his as well.

6079Winston · Post by **6079Winston** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:27 pm

Count me as in for the match, or on the waiting list if it is already full. Or, if I am now behind a crushing mass of humanity, I can help herd cats at the match.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:43 pm

we need more spotters/helpers guys

Juice5610 · Post by **Juice5610** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:45 pm

I REALLY wanna shoot this match BUT if need be I will sit this one out and help run it. Send me a text on Saturday and let me know.

Swan · Post by **Swan** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:05 pm

Juice5610 wrote:I REALLY wanna shoot this match BUT if need be I will sit this one out and help run it. Send me a text on Saturday and let me know.

You can't help til you get Top 308 buddy

brian01tj · Post by **brian01tj** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:07 pm

Swan wrote:
You can't help til you get Top 308 buddy

He's just scared of falling off the roof

...or maybe through it

Juice5610 · Post by **Juice5610** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:32 pm

Listen if no one is going to man up and sit one out I will do it. Its called being a team player. I'm scared of very few things a COF is definitional NOT one of them. I as well as many asked for this COF I would not miss shooting "Randall's revenge" as John so lovingly put it for anything except of course if its for the greater good of the group. Pay your dues to the cub or someone else (me) will. Simply as that.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:35 pm

Juice5610 wrote: Its called being a team player.

Juice5610 · Post by **Juice5610** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:39 pm

DirtRacer151 wrote:

Shut up and find me a Surgeon action for 1000 bucks

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:42 pm

Juice5610 wrote: Shut up and find me a Surgeon action for 1000 bucks

Ive got one you can have for 1000 bucks and special favor

Juice5610 · Post by **Juice5610** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:50 pm

DirtRacer151 wrote:
Ive got one you can have for 1000 bucks and special favor

Sure I'm down.... for...... ANYTHING..... :lol:

(no homo) (ok maybe a little homo) :lol:

StraightShooter · Post by **StraightShooter** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:52 pm

Juice5610 wrote:
Sure I'm down.... for...... ANYTHING..... (no homo) (ok maybe a little homo)

Get a room you two....

roypark · Post by **roypark** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:54 pm

Jose. I was planning to volunteer this month until I heard about the COF, which made me want to shoot it. But I'll still volunteer if it means you can shoot. I was hoping we'd have other volunteers but its not looking good so far.

Juice5610 · Post by **Juice5610** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:56 pm

StraightShooter wrote:
Get a room you two....

Joe308 · Post by **Joe308** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:56 am

"I'll be there"

Joe

PARKER · Post by **PARKER** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:48 pm

I'll come help if you guys need it.

Post by **AR15barrels** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:27 pm

PARKER wrote:I'll come help if you guys need it.

I'm sure they will be glad to have you there.

PARKER · Post by **PARKER** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:29 pm

I'll be there to help then, and shoot afterward

Shemmy · Post by **Shemmy** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:13 pm

I would be happy to work the line this time around.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:41 am

I woke up yesterday with something nasty.... and no it wasn't Kurtis :lol:

Im still planning to be there but I just want to ask that you guys get there on sunday on time please and offer to help out. Im sure ill be only half coherent on meds and we have a heavy load this month due to the new COF so extra help would be much appreciated. thanks guys

Randall- how many spotters are you figuring we need? Im thinking we still need more!

Post by **AR15barrels** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:24 pm

DirtRacer151 wrote:Randall- how many spotters are you figuring we need? Im thinking we still need more!

4 Spotters.
Two on the left.
One in the center.
One on the right who will also run the timer and do scoring.
The two line RO's will run the timer on the left and middle areas.

brian01tj · Post by **brian01tj** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:12 pm

AR15barrels wrote:
4 Spotters.
Two on the left.
One in the center.
One on the right who will also run the timer and do scoring.
The two line RO's will run the timer on the left and middle areas.

Last month I was my own spotter, timer, score keeper and I had to grab a spectator to do the actual spotting cause it was impossible to watch for impacts as well as the manual stop watch I was using as a timer. Not sure of the COF that person is doing but it could be real tough

Post by **AR15barrels** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:44 pm

brian01tj wrote:
Last month I was my own spotter, timer, score keeper and I had to grab a spectator to do the actual spotting cause it was impossible to watch for impacts as well as the manual stop watch I was using as a timer. Not sure of the COF that person is doing but it could be real tough

The right side can all be run by 1 person if needed.
You don't need to see the impacts to spot them when the targets are swingers as they swing long after being hit.

Juice5610 · Post by **Juice5610** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:48 pm

Shooters waiting to shoot can also spot as their is no prep time to worry about.

Post by **snappy** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:29 pm

Shooter that on deck or in the hole will not be able to spot, the will not be on the line and unable to shoulder their weapon.

Juice5610 · Post by **Juice5610** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:33 pm

snappy wrote:Shooter that on deck or in the hole will not be able to spot, the will not be on the line and unable to shoulder their weapon.

What about everyone else standing around?

P.S Hey Brad can I use your stiener binos? :lol:

Post by **snappy** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:23 pm

absolutely

Connor P Price · Post by **Connor P Price** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:54 pm

Spotting for a stage through a rifle scope is really just prep time in disguise.

brian01tj · Post by **brian01tj** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:48 pm

Connor P Price wrote:Spotting for a stage through a rifle scope is really just prep time in disguise.

Exactly

buffybuster · Post by **buffybuster** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:58 am

James, Connor,

Was a schedule change, I'm available until noon, if need helpers. Nevertheless, I'll be there ~8am.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:08 am

buffybuster wrote:James, Connor,

Was a schedule change, I'm available until noon, if need helpers. Nevertheless, I'll be there ~8am.

Thanks henry! See you tomorrow!!

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:15 am

Connor P Price wrote:Spotting for a stage through a rifle scope is really just prep time in disguise.

Only BEFORE you have shot the stage. ;)

Post by **AR15barrels** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:17 am

buffybuster wrote:James, Connor,

Was a schedule change, I'm available until noon, if need helpers. Nevertheless, I'll be there ~8am.

Excellent.
We have our 3rd line officer.
Henry can run the right area until he has to leave.
His spotters should be more than capable of covering for the last hour or so after he leaves.

chinaski · Post by **chinaski** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:38 am

First Post.

I met, I believe, Randall at your last Match in February at Angeles Range and was given a card in regards to joining the Forum as well as the club. Regardless, I sent my check in yesterday to become a member, and am looking forward to participating as well as increasing my knowledge. I have a busy day tomorrow, but I do plan on coming out to introduce myself and observe for at least a few hours.

Scott

Short Action Precision · Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:50 am

Welcome to the disease!!!

chinaski · Post by **chinaski** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:01 am

Iloveguns wrote:Welcome to the disease!!!

Had it for a LONG time, you guys might make it worse though. ;)