CaPRC 10/9/10 Night Match AAR

[AR15barrels]

We had 20 shooters show up to shoot last night's match.
Brad, Charlie, Ryan and myself ran the line along with help from several other people that were not shooting.
I can't remember everyone's names off the top, but thank you for the help.

Total round count for the match was 53-59 depending on how many shots were fired on the poolballs and the KYL.
There were 755 points possible.
Only 3 people hit their coldbore shot, including 1st and 2nd place finishers.
On the seated stage, most people hit 1/5 with a few hitting 2/5 and a couple people hitting 3/5.
Due to our 10pm deadline, stages 8 and 9 had to be thrown out as there were several people that did not complete each of them.
Threfore, the final results only include stages 1-7.

The course of fire was as follows:

Stage 1
250yd coldbore
Round count: 1
On the beep, engage the 3" shoot-n-see at 250yds with 1 shot.
40 points for a hit.
40 points possible
60 seconds prep, 30 seconds shoot time.

Stage 2
35yd 5 dot drill
Round count: 5
On the beep, engage the five 1/2" dots at 35yds with 1 shot each.
10 points per hit.
50 points possible
60 seconds prep, 60 seconds shoot time.

Stage 3
80yd unsupported transistions
Round count: 9
On the beep, engage the mini silouette target at 80yds with 3 shots standing, then 3 shots kneeling and finally 3 shots seated.
Bolt must be open while transistioning between positions.
Scoring per the values on the target.
90 points possible
60 seconds prep, 60 seconds shoot time.

Stage 4
100yd Pool balls
Round count: up to 9
On the beep, engage all the solid pool balls. The 8 ball is optional. A hit to the 8 ball without also hitting all other solid balls causes the shooter to lose all points. No rear bag may be used. Only gloves or a wadded up schemagh may be used as rear support.
10 points per ball except the 8 ball is worth 30 or zero points if all solids are not hit.
100 points possible.
60 seconds prep, 70 second shoot time.

Stage 5
250yd Seated steel
Round count: 5
on the beep engage the 10" round steel plate with 5 rounds from the seated position.
20 points per hits.
100 points possible.
60 sec prep and 60 sec shoot time.

Stage 6
200yd KYL.
Round count: up to 6
On the beep, engage the circles from largest to smallest, stopping if you do not believe you can make a sure hit. A miss causes shooter to zero the whole target.
Scoring per the values on the target.
105 points possible.
60 seconds prep, 60 second shoot time.

Stage 7
200yd hostage
Round count: 6
On the beep, engage the hostage target at 200 yards from the prone position with three rounds on each side.
15 points for shots within the scoring box or 5 points for any other bad guy hit and -15 points for any hostage hit.
90 points possible
60 sec prep and 60 sec shoot.

Stage 8
100yd to 400yd transistions
Round count: 6
On the beep, engage the 100yd 2" Shoot-n-See dot then the 400yd 8" plate. Repeat 3 times as one string.
10 points per hit.
60 points possible.
60 seconds prep, 60 second shoot time.

Stage 9
Random Steel Suprise
Round count: 12
On the beep, engage the steel plates as the spotter calls them out.
10 points per hit.
120 points possible.
180 seconds combined prep and shoot time.

Scores were as follows:

314 Brandon 243win
247 Jeff B 223rem
235 Joe V 308win
228 Seth R 260rem
211 Ken H 308win
206 James J 260rem
170 Mike M
165 John L
155 Connor P
153 Kurtis K
150 Alfonso O
140 Steven R
132 Chris B
109 Rich G
102 Andrew K
66 Nathan W
60 Nick P
56 Bob B
25 Kevin H
0 Ben S

[rksimple]

Here's some pics:







And Conner's tactical pants change...

[Gnzrme]

You missed my pant change as well!!! Good match, had a great time...Still need to work on positions....will keep trying...

[StraightShooter]

Definitely a fun and challenging match. Thanks to all who put in the work to put it together.

[rksimple]

Awesome to see you win it Brandon. Great shooting from a shot out 243...

[Juice5610]

I will have to make a mental note to shoot in the next one looks like a blast, Good job!

[AR15barrels]

Scores are posted up at the top now.

[Connor P Price]

James just taught me how to use the illuminated reticle on the premier I used lastnight. hahaha, that would have been helpful.

[DirtRacer151]

James just taught me how to use the illuminated reticle on the premier I used lastnight. hahaha, that would have been helpful.

newb

[Connor P Price]

newb

You used yours? Gamer!

[johnlee]

Thank you to all involved for the night match. I don't think I have ever had so much fun at Angeles.

Special thanks to the organizers and line officers. You guys put in a lot of work setting up the lighted targets and herding cats in the dark during the shooting.

[AR15barrels]

Special thanks to the organizers and line officers. You guys put in a lot of work setting up the lighted targets and herding cats in the dark during the shooting.

[khw9mm]

Great match!! Lots of fun!! Poor execution (on my part)...lol. Thanks guys!

[PRYDE]

Fun match, congrats to the winners.
Let's do it again with some efficiency improvements

[StraightShooter]

Hey Randall, could you give me some details on the flashers that you used on the 3,4,5 and 600 yard targets? Maybe some pictures? I have a feeling I know how they are made and want to try to make some but some pictures of how they connect to the flash would help.

[AR15barrels]

Hey Randall, could you give me some details on the flashers that you used on the 3,4,5 and 600 yard targets? Maybe some pictures? I have a feeling I know how they are made and want to try to make some but some pictures of how they connect to the flash would help.

There is a little black sensor box, about 1" x 2" x 3/4" thick.
It has a 3/32" 2 conductor phono jack.
The back of the flash has that same 3/32" phono jack.
There's a straight-through cable between the two.
The flash takes 2 AA batteries.
The sensor box does not have any power in/to it.
It appears to just open/close the connection to make the flash trigger.

[Chevroletkid88]

That match was my first one and it was just fun as all hell. I never thought i would have that much fun sucking at something. But i was wrong. Cant wait to shoot more with you guys. Thanks to everyone for helping out and planning it all.

[StraightShooter]

There is a little black sensor box, about 1" x 2" x 3/4" thick.
It has a 3/32" 2 conductor phono jack.
The back of the flash has that same 3/32" phono jack.
There's a straight-through cable between the two.
The flash takes 2 AA batteries.
The sensor box does not have any power in/to it.
It appears to just open/close the connection to make the flash trigger.

Im pretty sure it uses a simply piezo circuit to create a voltage from the vibrations to trigger the flash. I have a cheap flash ill try to rig something up. It seems to me like I should be able to make a bunch for really cheap. Ill let you know how it goes. Also, I have been working on a way to use cheap 2-way radios to remotely control lights so that you could hold down the PTT button and a light would illuminate while it is pressed. It would work good for limited exposure targets at night.

[AR15barrels]

Im pretty sure it uses a simply piezo circuit to create a voltage from the vibrations to trigger the flash. I have a cheap flash ill try to rig something up. It seems to me like I should be able to make a bunch for really cheap. Ill let you know how it goes. Also, I have been working on a way to use cheap 2-way radios to remotely control lights so that you could hold down the PTT button and a light would illuminate while it is pressed. It would work good for limited exposure targets at night.

I went and read about flash triggering and found some schematics.
It seems that there is 50-300v potential at the flash connector when it's charged up so don't zap yourself.
Perhaps the sensor box is sinking supply voltage from that and then shorting it out when it's time to fire the flash...
Since we have a cable that was shot in half, I'm going to see if simply connecting the leads together causes the flash to fire once it's charged.

[AR15barrels]

Im pretty sure it uses a simply piezo circuit to create a voltage from the vibrations to trigger the flash. I have a cheap flash ill try to rig something up. It seems to me like I should be able to make a bunch for really cheap. Ill let you know how it goes. Also, I have been working on a way to use cheap 2-way radios to remotely control lights so that you could hold down the PTT button and a light would illuminate while it is pressed. It would work good for limited exposure targets at night.

I should add that the sensor takes very little impact to trip it.
You can hold it in your hand and tap it with your finger and it will fire the flash.

[StraightShooter]

Its possible that it uses a small microphone but if this is the case then it must have power going back to the black box because microphones need a small bias voltage, about 2 volts to work properly. If a piezo is used, it created its own charge with no need for external power when it is flexed. Piezo's are also extremely sensitive but they can be tuned to be as sensitive as you want with minimal circuitry. We use piezos at work so I have quite a bit of experience with them. Ill see what I can create.

[Chris]

Since we have a cable that was shot in half, .

Only one?

[AR15barrels]

Only one?

I think the other two just fell off the backs of the targets.

[Gnzrme]

what were all the other things that didnt work out as planned or got damaged in the shoot? Excluding the wind, it seemed to go very well...Needed more set up time or an extension to shoot longer....We could easily do this match out at desert marksman and we would just have to notify the club president and Exec Comm that we wanted to use the range...Shouldn't be a problem, but I would like to find out....Just a little further to drive....

[AR15barrels]

what were all the other things that didnt work out as planned or got damaged in the shoot?

The wind was probably the biggest factor we did not plan for.
Almost ALL the target backers blew off when the heavy winds hit around 9:30 or so.
One of the neon backer boards came off at 400yds earlier, but it was only mounted on one 1x2.
I think we only had 3 times where the line had to go cold for target repairs.

We thought that the Angeles line closed at 5:00pm and were planning to start at 6:45.
The Angeles line did not go cold until 5:45, delaying us 45 minutes.
It turned out that it took us the exact same time to setup as we started at 7:30 instead of 6:45 s originally planned.
That 45 minutes would have easily been enough time to have everyone finish stages 8 & 9.

One extension cord was shot that powered all the 100yd lights.
All paper targets should be set higher next time to eliminate bullet impacts where cords are run.
One flash target cable was shot.
Two flash target sensors boxes came off the targets. (I have a solution for this. All the steel targets will get mounting tabs welded on the back soon.)

The paper target array at 250yds was set too low so that the targets could not be seen from prone.

We forgot to put a light in front of the 200yd steel KYL rack. (this is probably a blessing as we would never have completed both stage 9 AND the KYL rack if we did have a light on it.)

We needed more line helpers to wrangle people through the steel stages.

We needed a small index card for each shooter with their shooter number and check-off boxes for each stage to help keep track that they shoot all the stages.

[Chris]

I think the other two just fell off the backs of the targets.

Someone shot my extension cord and another one as well.

[Connor P Price]

When we were bringing in extension cords in I think we counted a total of four hits. Chris' cord had one and three hits on two of nicks. From where they all were it looked like they were all hits from bullets that had just gone through the 35 and 85 yard targets.

[AR15barrels]

When we were bringing in extension cords in I think we counted a total of four hits. Chris' cord had one and three hits on two of nicks. From where they all were it looked like they were all hits from bullets that had just gone through the 35 and 85 yard targets.

So we probably should have put the 100yd generator behind the 100yd berm and come over the top with cords instead of running across the range to the generator.

[bcrich]

Congrats Brandon and again thanks for your 10 rnd ai mag, James & brian thanks for the bipod, Thanks to all who make these matches happen! had a blast

[264Charlie]

Better to have an RO of each group next time... It's hard to run 2 groups three is almost impossible. All in all I think we learned a lot and I had a good time.

I wanted to shoot so bad.

[6079Winston]

Many thanks to those who ran the match, making it possible for the rest of us to take a shot in the dark. That was one awesome match that went off remarkably well considering the complexity, darkness and occasional chaos of cut cords, falling targets and migrating competitors.
Jeff Butler

[PRYDE]

I think next time whoever runs the steel stages needs to walk down the line trying to pull people off to shoot the steel stage. It seemed like there was nobody shooting stage 9 for the first hour of the match and at the very end there were like 8 people in line trying to get in and finish it. After I was finished shooting all of my stages, I was helping Ryan on stage 9 to try and get people through but by then it was already too late.