Precision Bolt Rifle match Aug 17 @ WEGC

bcrich · Post by **bcrich** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:51 pm

Greetings PBR shooters, we will be having our Aug monthly match Sunday the 17th @ wegc & would encourage new shooters to come on out to participate in our discipline. We will be shooting from all positions as usual. Bring 60 rnds of your finest match grade ammo along with the necessities such as eyes, ears & chamber flags (available on the line $1)

Sign ups start at 7:30 & we will go hot right after the briefing by 8am and typically run until 12:30-1:00 if things go smoothly. Meet up at the PBR conex & wait there don't hump your gear to the usual 500m pad. Remember to check in with the range master & let him know you are there for PBR match & please watch your speed while on the range (5mph).

Please RSVP if you are coming in is thread to get a head count.
Hope to see you guys Sunday morning for another fun match.

postal · Post by **postal** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:30 pm

In- Bro probably too, and bringing a new guy.

So- 3....

Point of Impact · Post by **Point of Impact** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:55 pm

In to shoot!

Post by **Mobius38** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:43 pm

im in.....round count?

bcrich · Post by **bcrich** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:46 pm

60rnds ....don't wait till sat night to load Esteban!

postal · Post by **postal** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:51 pm

We hiking up the hill?

Post by **robojet** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:25 pm

Treadstone and robojet are in to shoot! Our first time at WEGC

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:37 pm

postal wrote:We hiking up the hill?

I think that's the plan. Along with some other new surprises...

Rareform · Post by **Rareform** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:52 pm

I'm in to shoot.

Point of Impact · Post by **Point of Impact** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:16 pm

DirtRacer151 wrote:
I think that's the plan. Along with some other new surprises...

2nd story on Nates house?

Mudlol · Post by **Mudlol** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:17 pm

Count me in!

Larry

Post by **Mobius38** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:28 pm

bcrich wrote:60rnds ....don't wait till sat night to load Esteban!

Thanks man! I only ask because with this match, Surefire and a little practice ammo I have ALOT to reload!

bcrich · Post by **bcrich** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:37 pm

I'll bring your brass Ben.

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:49 pm

Point of Impact wrote:
2nd story on Nates house?

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:53 pm

In to shoot and help as need

Sagit4275 · Post by **Sagit4275** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:26 pm

I'm new to your site. Where is WEGC and what gun club is it?

Point of Impact · Post by **Point of Impact** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:38 pm

bcrich wrote:I'll bring your brass Ben.

Thanks!

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:03 pm

I'm in to shoot.

Sagit4275 wrote:I'm new to your site. Where is WEGC and what gun club is it?

West End Gun Club. Off of Sierra on the 15 fwy. Come on out and join the fun, it's one of the best match in SoCal.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:07 pm

Those of you shooting the match, keep in mind the Cajon Crawl project and allow for extra time to get to the range in the morning.

http://www.wegc.org/forum/index.php?top ... en#msg7388" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Point of Impact · Post by **Point of Impact** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:32 pm

khw9mm wrote:Those of you shooting the match, keep in mind the Cajon Crawl project and allow for extra time to get to the range in the morning.

http://www.wegc.org/forum/index.php?top ... en#msg7388" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An easy work around for this is to take the 210 east all the way to Sierra ave, Exit and head north all the way up to WEGC. This will allow you to bypass the 15 fwy all together.

khw9mm · Post by **khw9mm** » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:38 pm

Point of Impact wrote:
An easy work around for this is to take the 210 east all the way to Sierra ave, Exit and head north all the way up to WEGC. This will allow you to bypass the 15 fwy all together.

Thanks Ben!

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mp40 · Post by **mp40** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:48 am

I'm in to shoot & help

postal · Post by **postal** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:09 am

I went to WEGC yesterday about 10:00AM- freeway was fine both directions between 215 and sierra.

However, the creek had some water in it... anyone with a 'low rider' might think twice about it, but nothing a normal car cant deal with.

Who knows - it might be dry by next week.

evo · Post by **evo** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:23 am

I'm going to try to shoot, if my rifle is done, if my Copper Creek ammo shows up and if I can make it out to zero on Sat.

So, alot of if's but I'm gonna try.

Post by **autoessentials** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:30 pm

In to shoot

wforider · Post by **wforider** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:10 pm

I'm in to shoot

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:39 pm

In to shoot.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:41 pm

Im in.

blockfort · Post by **blockfort** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:50 pm

Where can I read up or learn about these types of matches (what they are, what we need, how they're run and scored, etc), also, where is your range?

Point of Impact · Post by **Point of Impact** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:56 pm

Downrange67 wrote:Im in.

Shit there go my chances for top inferior cartridge

bcrich · Post by **bcrich** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:06 pm

blockfort wrote:Where can I read up or learn about these types of matches (what they are, what we need, how they're run and scored, etc), also, where is your range?

Joshua, I post an AAR (after action report) as soon as I get a chance & describe the days events by stage. The scoring is determined by hits on steel & scoring values on paper ... 10 ring, 9 ring, 8,7,6 etc but it's not always the same. We typically run 2 squads each with its own RO. You can get a pretty good idea from the AAR.
Wegc is located near the north end of Fontana off Sierra & the 15 frwy. If you have questions regarding gear you can give me call ill be happy to answer whatever questions you might have 909-438-7595

blockfort · Post by **blockfort** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:08 pm

Thanks, when is a good time to call?

Post by **thegiff** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:02 am

In to shoot. Messages below:

Danny, I've got a D-ring you left behind.

Esteban, I've got a precision 50 grain weight made. Came out to 49.998 grains. I'm getting better at making them, but it only takes one sand stroke to go from over to under. My next best one came out to 49.992. There is long time delay waiting for them to come back to temp after touching them, what happens is that if it is hot, it causes a buoyancy effect that makes it read light. Conversely, I had the opposite problem, when I clean them with alcohol they get cold and read heavy for a while. That being said, I think .002gr is close enough.

Evin, I have some 6 creed dies you can borrow, whidden. You would need a neck bushing though, I need the bushing for my 243 dies. Redding bushings fit. I'm going to 6 creed and am awaiting the reamer and muzzle brakes.

Post by **Mobius38** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:57 am

thegiff wrote:In to shoot. Messages below:

Danny, I've got a D-ring you left behind.

Esteban, I've got a precision 50 grain weight made. Came out to 49.998 grains. I'm getting better at making them, but it only takes one sand stroke to go from over to under. My next best one came out to 49.992. There is long time delay waiting for them to come back to temp after touching them, what happens is that if it is hot, it causes a buoyancy effect that makes it read light. Conversely, I had the opposite problem, when I clean them with alcohol they get cold and read heavy for a while. That being said, I think .002gr is close enough.

Evin, I have some 6 creed dies you can borrow, whidden. You would need a neck bushing though, I need the bushing for my 243 dies. Redding bushings fit. I'm going to 6 creed and am awaiting the reamer and muzzle brakes.

Thank you Aaron. Let me know what I owe you for the weight. Also remind me about ridesharing up to the Surefire match!

Tackman11 · Post by **Tackman11** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:59 am

thegiff wrote:In to shoot. Messages below:

Danny, I've got a D-ring you left behind.

Esteban, I've got a precision 50 grain weight made. Came out to 49.998 grains. I'm getting better at making them, but it only takes one sand stroke to go from over to under. My next best one came out to 49.992. There is long time delay waiting for them to come back to temp after touching them, what happens is that if it is hot, it causes a buoyancy effect that makes it read light. Conversely, I had the opposite problem, when I clean them with alcohol they get cold and read heavy for a while. That being said, I think .002gr is close enough.

Evin, I have some 6 creed dies you can borrow, whidden. You would need a neck bushing though, I need the bushing for my 243 dies. Redding bushings fit. I'm going to 6 creed and am awaiting the reamer and muzzle brakes.

Thank you, sir.

evo · Post by **evo** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:56 am

Thanks Aaron! I already ordered a set of Whiddens and I'm hoping to get my 6mm Wilson seater blank chambered as well. I just measured the Copper Creek rounds and a .271-2" bushing should do the trick. I have enough Copper Creek ammo to zero and shoot one match.

ocelot762 · Post by **ocelot762** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:16 pm

I'm a maybe to go to the match depends if I can convince a few buddies to go.

Downrange67 · Post by **Downrange67** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:51 pm

Point of Impact wrote:
Shit there go my chances for top inferior cartridge

I was thinking the same thing when I saw your name!!:

Richwt · Post by **Richwt** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:07 pm

Count me In for 1.

postal · Post by **postal** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:49 pm

ocelot762 wrote:I'm a maybe to go to the match depends if I can convince a few buddies to go.

Dont worry about that.....

There's plenty of us around to provide you with (im)moral support.

Come out, have fun, shoot.

Post by **autoessentials** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:29 am

Bring a few extra rounds. You may need them!

DirtRacer151 · Post by **DirtRacer151** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:00 am

autoessentials wrote:Bring a few extra rounds. You may need them!

Aka Rich wrote more gay stages...

Post by **autoessentials** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:37 am

What can I say, James always gets me all excited with those tight jeans of his!

skunkdevo · Post by **skunkdevo** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:46 pm

In to shoot

evo · Post by **evo** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:29 pm

Looks like I'm out, my chamber is a little too short for the Copper Creek rounds (they chamber but really jam into the lands) so I'm going to have to re-seat them and re-zero.
So I'll back out at Angeles to zero tomorrow and I'll see most of you at the club match next week. Shoot well!

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:37 pm

That sucks. Watch for pressure sign.

We have a guy on the team with a short chamber. He reached his max at much lower weight compared to the rifles chambered by GAP.

evo · Post by **evo** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:11 pm

Max pressure or max velocity? There was a little bit of ejector swipe on the first round, but the other 4 only had slight primer flattening. I'm gonna seat them back to a .010" jump and also make some work up loads but I'm pretty sure the Copper Creek ammo will be fine once it's jumping instead of .05" into the lands

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:15 pm

Just be careful. Maybe pull a few rounds apart and lower the charge just a tad to make sure the pressure is ok with the rounds seated deeper. Try .020 jump.

evo · Post by **evo** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:20 pm

I'm gonna just load a few lower charge work up rounds to shoot first, I really don't think there will be pressure signs with a proper jump.

gau17 · Post by **gau17** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:30 pm

Let me know how it goes.